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I theorise that people born after 1980 are (on average) massively more worried about climate change than those born before. I further theorise that this is directly correlated to the fact that those of us older than this were far more scared of nuclear Armageddon than environmental Armageddon in our formative years.

Date: 2010-01-11 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] matildabj.livejournal.com
You may be on to something.

Date: 2010-01-11 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imc.livejournal.com
I was incredibly scared of nuclear Armageddon in the early 1980s. Whether that's correlated with attitudes to climate change I'm not sure.

Date: 2010-01-11 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bopeepsheep.livejournal.com
I used to have terrible nightmares about nuclear war, mostly thanks to reading apocalyptic novels. I have thought this for a long time, but I'm not sure where the lower cut-off is for caring. My teenage cousins don't seem to be bothered in the slightest about climate change, for instance.

Date: 2010-01-11 10:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rmc28
Counterexample: I was scared of nuclear armageddon growing up. I am now scared of climate change. I was born before 1980.

Date: 2010-01-11 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karohemd.livejournal.com
When I grew up/was in school, the main worry after nuclear armageddon (or just the Cold War escalating/the Russians invading, being that close to the Iron Curtain) was pollution, too but the baddies then were sulphur compounds (from diesel cars and brown coal fired power plants), NOx and other exhaust fumes. The ideal engine was one that produced only CO2 and water because they were considered inert. A bit later, it was CFCs. It was more about quality of life than climate change.

Date: 2010-01-11 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pir.livejournal.com
I was born in the early '70s. I wasn't particularly scared of nuclear Armageddon, it was (and still is) utterly out of my control so not something I could affect so not worth worrying about.

The environment problems now are something closer to home, more likely, I have an affect on and I'm more adult so it does cause me more worry.

Date: 2010-01-11 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckyc.livejournal.com
Out of curiosity, why 1980? I just ask because AIDS was the boogeyman* for me when I was little, not nuclear armgageddon. I was born before 1980, but not sufficiently before for me to remember any of the 70s.

*Oh, and, of course, the Mummies and dinosaurs chasing me home from the museum, but I gather that's quite normal for small kids in whatever year ;-).

Date: 2010-01-12 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mentalfirewall.livejournal.com
Born after 1980 but Nuclear Armageddon is still more terrifying to me than Climate change. Maybe because it's out of my control so I worry about it more and perhaps due to it's sudden impact but lingering problems... while with climate change there are (theoretically) things that can be done and we can all (again theoretically) do our part and there's no sudden death by incineration or lingering radiation sickness.

Date: 2010-01-12 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gareth-rees.livejournal.com
Maybe it's because young people are going to have to cope with the effects of climate change, whereas us oldies are most likely going to be dead before things get really bad. Sorry, kids, we burned all the oil and you're going to have to deal with the consequences.

Date: 2010-01-12 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenortart.livejournal.com
I remember being extremely worried about being nuked particularly in around '84 or so. The BBC showed Threads on the TV just about the time I went for an interview at Sheffield to do Microbiology and then came home and saw the BBC bombing the city!

That's not to say I'm not concerned about climate change but it doesn't leave me shit scared.

Date: 2010-01-12 09:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pjc50.livejournal.com
Something in that I think.

There's also some lessons about the limits of what is achievable with political coordination, control, and activism; against the nuclear threat there was SALT and the NPT, which had some effect but did not solve the problem.

Date: 2010-01-12 10:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] woodpijn.livejournal.com
George Monbiot agrees: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/02/climate-change-denial-clive-james Except he puts the cut-off earlier than you do.

"The Pew report found that people over 65 are much more likely than the rest of the population to deny that there is solid evidence that the earth is warming, that it's caused by humans, or that it's a serious problem. This chimes with my own experience. Almost all my fiercest arguments over climate change, both in print and in person, have been with people in their 60s or 70s."

As you'd expect, he and his supporters reckon it's because the old are closer to death, and so either won't be around to see the results, or find reminders of mortality upsetting; and his opponents reckon it's because the old have seen so many other scares and doom-threats that they've become sceptical of new ones.

Date: 2010-01-12 02:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eldritchreality.livejournal.com
Its our Armageddon and we'll cry if we want to!

Date: 2010-01-12 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neophyte-13.livejournal.com
born in 1981 I was always more terrified of environmental disasters than man made ones, climate change may be down to man but it's the environmental symptoms that are terrifying. Just look at our warmer summers and colder winters. The fact that we can clearly look at our environment and see how much it's changed since I was born, even the changes since my 8 year old son was born. He's already more worried about things like volcanoes and earthquakes than anything else.
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